Wolfskin Volunteer Fire Department
Oglethorpe County, Northeast Georgia
Peace in Wolfskin

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Send additions, corrections, etc. to wayne@sparkleberrysprings.com.
Please note that as of the beginning of 2015, Wayne's descriptions of training are accurate, but not official. For the official reports along with attendance please contact the new
Assistant Chief and Training Officer, Charleen Foott (foott@att.net).


May 2015

May 5: (Tue 7:00pm): First Tuesday Oglethorpe Firefighters Association meeting (Farm Bureau Office in Crawford).

May 7: (Thu 6:30pm): First Thursday Business Meeting.

May 14: (Thu 6:30pm): Second Thursday Training Meeting. Discussed response responsibilities and tactics, esp in terms of going directly to scene or station, eventually decided should go to station first except: two others have indicated they're headed there; and take a look at scene but only if on way or out of way by less than 1 minutes round trip. No more than 1 minute to check out scene. Also exemption for repeated false alarms from same residence over short period of time. Strongly suggested using number of fire depts called as indicator of potential seriousness.

May 16-17: (Sat/Sun): Firefighter Weekend. Charleen and Glenn left 5:30am on Saturday and returned 6:03pm on Sunday evening. Each took a 16-hour course. CF: Training Operations in Small Departments: This course is designed to provide students with some basic tools and skills to coordinate training in a small fire/EMS organization. A training function in a smaller department typically may include conducting training drills and coordinating training with a nearby larger city or state training function. Exam: Passed. GG: Principles and Practice of Command: This course will present principles and foundations for maintaining a command presence during emergency incidents. In addition, sie ujp, tactics, strategies, and effective communications will be discussed. No exam.

May 21: (Thu 6:30pm): Third Thursday Training Meeting. Thermal Imager was charged while pumper was run for 1 hour. Practiced using booster hose, PTO, and pump.

May 28: (Thu 6:30pm): Fourth Thursday Training Meeting. Chainsaw training: TM and MP went over prepping chainsaw with gas mix and oil, chain blade tightness, starting and safety measures, and fundamentals of cutting up medium diameter trees. (Phyllis arrived and took photos for newsletter, 30 minutes.)


June 2015

Jun 2: (Tue 7:00pm): First Tuesday Oglethorpe Firefighters Association meeting (Farm Bureau Office in Crawford).

NOTE: Jun 3: (Wed 6:30pm): Business Meeting. Changed to Wed night Jun 3 because of unexpected difficulties with attendance on Thu Jun 4 by several members. Sorry! This happens very infrequently.

Jun 6: (Sat 9:00am): County wide training - Search and Rescue. 1096 Elberton Road. See OCFFA Description for details and contact info.

NOTE: Jun 11: (Thu 6:30pm): NOTE: Postponed to 6:30pm Friday Jun 12. Second Thursday Training Meeting. We'll be looking over SalemVFD's brush truck. Sorry about the late notification.

Jun 18: (Thu 6:30pm): Third Thursday Training Meeting.

Jun 25: (Thu 6:30pm): Fourth Thursday Training Meeting.


July 2015

Jul 2: (Thu 6:30pm): First Thursday Business Meeting.


Friday, August 27, 2010

Testing the Water Master Fire Pump

It's been a long time since I've made an actual post, although the blog information is updated frequently. There are various reasons for this, especially that I'm the only one who does posting, and I have other fish to fry too. And there are quite a few things to catch up on, and I hope to do so in the near future.

But this might be of interest to those who, like us, want to test the fire pump on a Water Master tanker. I did a lot of internet searching on the subject without success, although I did locate the current Water Master supplier, but we purchased ours in 2005 and the fire pump was added separately, which I understand is no longer the case. So for those who are in our situation, this might be helpful.

A few weeks ago we'd taken the pumper and the Water Master tanker up to a lake near Winterville to get them pump tested. You have to do this on an annual basis for satisfying insurance requirements for the class we're trying to achieve. The pumper did ok, but the Water Master tanker couldn't be tested. The guys doing the testing spent a couple of hours at it, but couldn't figure out how to draft and pump simultaneously, so that had to be put on hold.

The reason you have to draft (suck water out of a pond or lake) and discharge at the same time is that you have to maintain 1000 gallons per minute discharge for twenty minutes, so you need a larger body of water as your reservoir. The guys knew how to do the pumpers, because they're common and well known.

I tried to describe to them how I thought it could be done with the tanker, but they were reluctant to try it. In their defense there was a secondary issue that made them reluctant to proceed further. The manufacturers of the fire pump had neglected to include a test specification plate with all the pump info, so they couldn't assure themselves of what the pumping capacity was and were skeptical of our recollection that it was 1000 gal/min (it is). They don't want to burn out someone's fire pump, so that ended it.

Fire Chief Ed did have an indirect conversation through one of the test guys to the company that makes the Water Master tankers. I'm giving the third hand report, but the upshot was that simultaneous discharge and drafting (sucking water out of the lake) couldn't be done.

That just didn't seem right to me, so I devised a procedure for doing it, and last night we tested it out and it worked just fine.

Here is how we normally use the tanker (called a tender in the West - tanker is used to describe a plane or helicopter dropping water or other suppressant from the air).

The tanker is a modified septic tank sucker, with a big sealed 2500 gallon tank shown in red, sitting atop the truck. The fire pump pumps water out of the truck. There's a vent that you can open or close from a big panel with lots of switches and LEDs sitting between the driver and passenger seats. For the normal operation you keep the vent open, of course, for you do not want to develop a vacuum in the tank as water is pumped out of it.


Here is how we needed to operate the tanker. It's the same figure from above except that we also needed to pull water into the tank while we discharged. The main concern here was for pump testing, but in general we'd also need to do this for nursing other trucks when hydrants aren't present. In most parts of Oglethorpe County, hydrants aren't present, but there are little ponds and lakes around.


The big difference is that now we operate the fire pump with the vent *closed*, something you "never" do. As the fire pump pumps water out of the tank, a vacuum forms. This vacuum pulls water out of the lake to replace the water that has been removed from the tank.

And that's what we demonstrated last night. Very simple. We dumped water from the pumper into a drop tank to serve as our "lake." From the tanker in the second figure above, we put our 6" suction hose. We hooked up our discharge to the pumper, and turned the fire pump on. And it filled the pumper while immediately beginning a suction from the drop tank, just as predicted.

Once the pumper was full again, we hooked up the deck gun and repeated the process, discharging into the air, until we'd emptied the drop tank first, and then the tanker at 400 gal/min, keeping the rpm's low just in case there was a problem. Worked fine!

Now, in defense of the assertions that we couldn't accomplish the intended goal, I'll have to introduce a complication. The Water Master has a *second* pump, a vacuum pump, that is normally used to fill the truck from a lake on a one-time basis. With the vent closed, you turn the vacuum pump on, it removes the air from the tank, and the water comes in to replace it. Simple! That's how the ancestors of this truck clean out septic tanks, only there it isn't simply water that is sucked into the tank.

So I think the testing guys, who knew something about the tanker, and the manufacturer guys too, were fixated on using the vacuum pump and the fire pump at the same time to accomplish our needs, and their conclusion was that it couldn't be done. Maybe they were also blindsided a bit by the rule that you never use a fire pump with the tank vent closed. And to do what we did means you had to violate that rule.

We still haven't fully tested it, since to achieve the 1000 gal/min we'll have to rev up the fire pump rpm's at least 2.5 times higher than we tested it out at. But that's what the fire pump is built to do. So I can't see why that would be problem, unless the fire pump is doing a double duty that decreases its ability to discharge. And that's why we need a test spec plate, so we know the maximum rpm's we can safely operate it at, as well as the gallons per minute it's expected to deliver under normal conditions.

To repeat: that's also why we need to get that test plate, hint hint.

I really wish I'd taken my camera - it was pretty impressive when we were pulling water out of the drop tank into the tanker, discharging it into the pumper, and then using the pumper's fire pump to return it back into the drop tank. We had a full circuit of water moving, with the physics of gravity and atmospheric pressure completing a critical portion of that loop.